{"id":22203,"date":"2025-07-31T04:30:00","date_gmt":"2025-07-31T08:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/christoverall.com\/?p=22203"},"modified":"2025-07-31T11:16:18","modified_gmt":"2025-07-31T15:16:18","slug":"arent-catholics-and-evangelicals-united-by-the-nicene-creed-a-review-of-a-book-that-answers-this-question","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/christoverall.com\/article\/concise\/arent-catholics-and-evangelicals-united-by-the-nicene-creed-a-review-of-a-book-that-answers-this-question\/","title":{"rendered":"Aren\u2019t Catholics and Evangelicals United by the Nicene Creed? A Review of a Book That Answers This Question"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>\u201cSurely we believe in one and the same Lord Jesus Christ\u201d is often claimed to be the foundation of agreement between Roman Catholic doctrine and evangelical theology. But is this affirmation enough to be the grounds of ecumenical unity between Rome and Protestants? Rome claims a type of unity with Protestants because both religious movements affirm the Nicene Creed in its entirety. The recently published edited volume <em>The Nicene Creed<\/em> challenges this assumption. As the contributors put it, \u201cOur goal is not to deny what is in common, but to ask questions about its depth, given the fundamental differences that evangelicals and Catholics express and that give rise to different accounts of the gospel\u201d (4). The book originated as papers at the 2023 Rome Scholars and Leaders Network (RSLN) sponsored by the Reformanda Initiative.<sup><a id=\"post-22203-footnote-ref-1\" href=\"#post-22203-footnote-1\">[1]<\/a><\/sup> Each chapter of <em>The Nicene Creed<\/em> seeks to evaluate the legitimacy of the claims of unity between Roman Catholics and Evangelicals based on the confession of the same creeds such as the Nicene Creed.<sup><a id=\"post-22203-footnote-ref-2\" href=\"#post-22203-footnote-2\">[2]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\">1. The Initiative\u2019s goal is to \u201cidentify, unite, equip and resource evangelical leaders to understand Roman Catholic theology and practice, to educate the evangelical church, and to communicate the gospel\u201d (6).<\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><br>2. In chapter one, Rachel Ciano presents the historical precedent of the Nicene Creed; in chapter two, Alastair Dunlop maintains the biblical foundation of the creed; in chapter three, Leonardo De Chirico explains the Trinitarian framework of the creed; in chapter four, Matthew Johnston discusses the Person of Christ; in chapter five, Robbie Bells discusses the work of Christ; in chapter six, Gregg R. Allison discusses the Holy Spirit; in chapter seven, Lauren J. Montenegro evaluates Mariology; in chapter eight, Mark Gilbert delineates the \u201cmarks\u201d of the church; in chapter nine, Clay Kannard considers baptism; in chapter ten, Reid Karr considers the world to come and the judgment Christ brings; in chapter eleven, Bradley G. Green wonders if Nicaea is enough as the grounds of unity between Catholics and Protestants.<\/h6>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>This book seeks to defend Evangelicals against two charges: The first charge alleges that Evangelicals ought to affirm common confessional statements as a unifying point between Roman Catholics and Evangelicals and care more about creeds (such as the Nicene Creed). The second charge claims that Reformed Evangelicals care too much about the Nicene Creed in a way that exaggerates distinctions between Roman Catholics and Evangelicals. However, while both Roman Catholics and Evangelicals confess the Nicene Creed\u2014and so stand on somewhat similar ground\u2014this book shows that they remain irreconcilably distinct in the definitions of biblical-theological terms. The unity most Christians are looking for is already in place if we confess the truth that the Bible confesses and attach the same meanings to the words we use in these confessions. <em>Nicene Creed <\/em>seeks to consider if everybody means \u201cthe same things by the words we are saying\u201d (5). <em>Nicene Creed <\/em>answers this with a resounding \u201cno\u201d as it structures its chapters to correspond to the heads of doctrine expressed in the Nicene Creed.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Summary<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter one introduces what is at stake in the very words we confess in the Nicene Creed, and it maintains that a unity based on face-value agreement on the Nicene Creed is superficial, and \u201canemic\u201d at best (16). The understanding and articulation of what the Creed means is battle over descriptions and definitions of words, e.g., the iota that makes all the difference in whether Jesus is of a <em>similar<\/em> <em>nature<\/em> to the Father (<em>homoiousios<\/em>) or is of one and the <em>same<\/em> <em>nature<\/em> as God the Father (<em>homoousios<\/em>). The meaning and distinction of words in the theological task of confessing the Christian faith rests on an absolute authority, namely, Scripture alone as God\u2019s Word.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter two establishes Scripture as the standard for the evaluation of whether, Roman Catholics and Evangelicals \u201ceven mean the same things when we use the same words?\u201d (33). Certainly, even in saying the same things, Roman Catholic doctrine means differently from what Evangelicals say. Rome thus, appears to lean heavily on human tradition and extra-biblical notions. Here is a resounding call for Christians everywhere to ground our faith and theological investigations in the solid and true foundation, that is Scripture as God\u2019s own word.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter three evaluates the manner of God\u2019s relation to us as the Triune God. The chapter shows that the exaggerated notion of unity between Protestants and Rome because they share the same Nicene confession is just too \u201csimplistic and theologically superficial\u201d (47), especially given Rome\u2019s commitment to a naively optimistic view of human nature in relation to God. For Rome, human nature is neither spiritually dead nor depraved, but only \u201cmorally disordered\u201d (40). The Protestant view, however, distinguishes that \u201cwhile we retain our <em>imago Dei<\/em>, we have radically and permanently lost our natural capacity for God unless God himself regenerates it in our hearts. We find ourselves under God\u2019s righteous judgement without any ability to bypass it ourselves\u201d (41). One sees a stark example of this distinction in the way Roman Catholicism considers Mary as inseparably linked to the Trinitarian articulation of the Christian faith. Mary is said to have been sinlessly conceived herself just as she is said to have remained sinless and a virgin after Jesus\u2019 birth. Thus, \u201cEvangelicals and Catholics may recite the same trinitarian formulations of the Nicene Creed, but there are fundamental differences\u201d in its apprehension (42\u201343).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter four explains that while there is general ecumenical agreement in the basic Christological statements of Nicaea, the same agreement does not follow in the <em>entailments<\/em> of the distinct theological traditions such as Evangelicalism and Roman Catholicism (53). The author invites the reader to savor, appreciate, and anticipate the God presented in the Nicene Creed. He also rightly offers the caveat that the Nicene Creed is not the final word on Christology nor on any of the interlinked heads of doctrine. The creeds thus function as a prompt or urge of our \u201ceagerness to know more.\u201d (55). Thus, the Nicene Creed is not to be taken as a definitive exposition on the Trinity and the relations of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit described as persons. The author helpfully explains that lingering issues like the relation of the human and divine natures would be answered progressively in the succeeding church councils (58).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter five considers the differences between Roman Catholic and Evangelical views on the work of Christ. The author thus focuses on what it means that Christ, or God the Son Incarnate, was born, lived and died, rose again, and ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father, \u201cfor us and for our salvation\u201d (as the Nicene Creed puts it). Roman Catholics affirm with Evangelicals that Christ\u2019s suffering and death by crucifixion was substitutionary by nature. However, Roman Catholicism stops short of saying that \u201cChrist\u2019s death is a <em>penal <\/em>substitution\u201d (72). In fact, the official <em>Catechism of the Catholic Church<\/em> asserts \u201cJesus did not experience reprobation as if he himself had sinned\u201d (73; cf., <em>Catechism of the Catholic Church<\/em>, 603). This chapter rightly highlights that if the Roman Catholics affirmed penal substitutionary atonement, they would then lose the sacrament of penance\u2014and with it, the lofty notion of man\u2019s cooperation with God in salvation.&nbsp;Distinctly therefore, Rome in practice rejects that Christ\u2019s death on the cross is penal <em>and <\/em>substitutionary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter six focuses on the person of the Holy Spirit as God and his works as the \u201cgiver of life\u201d and the agent of all of God\u2019s revelation. In contrast to Evangelicals, Roman Catholic theology insists that there is a special anointing and empowering given to priests such that they can act <em>in persona Christi<\/em>, or in the person or stead of Christ (88). Priests uniquely anointed by the Holy Spirit serve for the effectual sanctification of the laity through the sacraments\u2014sacraments that are effectual only when administered by such a priest. In contrast, Evangelicals affirm the priesthood of all believers, where every Christian operates from the same faith and power of the same Holy Spirit, even if some may be called to distinct roles of Christian ministry (92). Whereas Protestants celebrate the administration of only two sacraments\u2014baptism and the Lord\u2019s Supper\u2014the Catholic Church celebrates seven: baptism, confirmation, eucharist, penance, holy matrimony, holy orders, last rites.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter seven considers the points of divergence in the understanding of Mary\u2019s person and role in our salvation. Roman Catholicism holds that Mary is rightly called the Mother of God, as she bore God the Son Incarnate. Thus, she is sinless, remains a virgin perpetually, and was assumed into heaven in such an impeccable state, therefore not experiencing the corruption of death. Evangelicals often shudder at such \u201cworship\u201d of Mary, which Roman Catholics maintain is veneration, and never worship properly considered (106). The author calls for sensitivity in addressing or bashing the Catholic views on such emotionally charged topics as Mary\u2019s role (108).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;Chapter eight teases out how the \u201cmarks\u201d of the church\u2014 \u201cone, holy, catholic and apostolic\u201d\u2014possess different meanings to Evangelicals and Roman Catholics. The distinction is crucially one of access that people have to God and who gets sent and with what authority. For example, Roman Catholics find their authority from God in apostolic succession, the idea that there is an unbroken line from the Apostle Peter all the way to the present pope. Protestants, however, see their mandate from God in the Great Commission (Matt. 28:18\u201320), whereby God\u2019s gives authority in the power of the Holy Spirit to Christians being sanctified in likeness to God. The faithful Christian church \u201cis holy because God is holy. It is set apart from this world because God and his gospel transcend this world. Yet it is also catholic\u2014available to all\u2014because God became human and made himself available to everyone\u201d (126).&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter nine distinguishes between the saving, effectual sacramental of baptism in the Roman Catholic church (132\u2013133) and the baptism taken to be a public profession of an already existing faith in Jesus Christ for Evangelicals. In Roman Catholicism, unity is generated or established by one\u2019s baptism into the Roman church, that is, baptism <em>makes<\/em> one a Christian. In Evangelicalism, an already existing unity of faith is only affirmed and celebrated whenever one is baptized (141).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter ten considers the world to come, when Jesus Christ will judge the living and the dead and establish a kingdom that enjoys his own terms. The difficulty that this chapter\u2019s author points out is the common uneasiness that people have generally with judgement and specifically with hell. The Roman Catholic\u2019s view that man is not desperately evil lends itself nicely to a notion that all \u201cgood people\u201d go to heaven. Since most people are good in the Roman Catholic system, this author argues that Romans Catholics see hell as most likely empty. So, it is unclear in Roman Catholicism who gets judged when the Lord Jesus comes again (153). This view undermines the offer of the gospel, which is given precisely so that men and women can flee and escape the coming judgment.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter eleven evaluates and ponders if the Nicene Creed is sufficient as a summary of our Christian faith to the point of fellowship between various Christian traditions. The author suggests that Nicaea \u201cis <em>not <\/em>enough\u201d (158). He insightfully shows that the naive sense of unity whenever people recite the Creed springs from an undue romanticizing of the early church period. While there was common agreement expressed in the Nicene Creed, it was not long after this period that the early church father Athanasius was exiled\u2014by the same bishops who had been at the Nicene council (160)! With the example of John Henry Newman (Catholic), and James Orr (Scottish Protestant), the author suggests that unlike Newman\u2019s desire to link every branch of doctrine to its early seed-form, we can follow Orr and \u201cthink about how the church can grow and develop in its theological understanding without having to bear the burden of somehow justifying every doctrinal affirmation that the church has made throughout its history\u201d (162). This means the church\u2019s theology can develop over time as we rethink and rework our theological understanding.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Evaluation<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The book keeps the reader engaged as the various chapters weave through the different sections of the Nicene Creed.&nbsp; These chapters illustrate the interconnectedness of the Christian doctrinal statements, especially regarding God and his nature: simple, unchangeable, eternal, etc., and so they guide our reflection on Jesus Christ as such a God, God the Son!&nbsp;The chapters are devoted to the theological loci or categories and helpfully illustrate the works of God corresponding to and appropriated by the persons of the Trinity.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The authors are instrumental in highlighting that the Nicene Creed (and by extension, almost every confessional statement of the early church) was not a mere theological musing or abstraction. The creeds were to be taken as sound responses to \u201can array of heresies\u201d which, if not dealt with, would undermine the gospel (59). This is crucial because, for example, \u201cconfusion about the person of Christ creates confusion about how Christ accomplished redemption\u201d (62).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Following the accessible language of the Nicene Creed, the book is written with similarly accessible language. The aim to present complex theological statements clearly and in a non-highly academic style is commendable, and thus this book serves as a good and thorough introduction to the Nicene Creed and the biblical issues at stake in its terms. The chapters end with a few questions intended to stimulate further reflection on the reliability of the creed as an affirmation of biblical truth and its relevance to our lives today. Indeed, the Nicene Creed is not merely a theological relic from the past!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The book rightly proves its main point that the Creed is <em>not<\/em> a sufficient launching pad for fostering unity among Christians. Affirming the Nicene Creed without defining its terms only produces a \u201cpaper-thin, anemic unity\u201d (16), a unity that is forced at best. Thus, while drawing on the rich theological heritage of the Christian Faith, this book defends the Reformed view of Christian Theology, a view quite distinct from Roman Catholic doctrine (63). For example, Roman Catholic tradition views the church as the extension of Christ, such that the pope takes the \u201cpriest\u2019s role as an <em>alter Christus<\/em>, another Christ,\u201d with the same powers of Christ. The Evangelical view distinguishes that the church or its ministers <em>cannot<\/em> be another Christ, but they are called to be like Christ. For the church then, there is \u201cno need for a human head on earth, because Christ is present with his people by the Spirit\u201d (66). The book does not, however, develop further the Lord Jesus\u2019s description of who the Holy Spirit is as another one of the same kind as he is i.e., very God and one and the same (John 14:16, cf., 16:7\u201315).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Chapter three does not emphasize enough Rome\u2019s claim of being almost another Christ on earth by virtue of being united to him and extending his work and body through the world. The contrary point deserves further affirmation: the church has the only merit of being covenantally united to Christ. It is not a natural union, not expected and never deserved!\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In an introductory book such as this, I would have enjoyed recommendations for relevant resources on the other creeds and confessions that Christians have enjoyed over time.<sup><a id=\"post-22203-footnote-ref-3\" href=\"#post-22203-footnote-3\">[3]<\/a><\/sup>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\">3. E.g., similar works on the Chalcedon Definition mentioned in Chapter four.<\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p>Most of the chapters engagingly presented the historical context and precedent of the section of the creed they addressed along with the relevance of such a discussion to the church. In a book intended to unapologetically affirm what is true and expose what sounds true but in practice is unbiblical, the chapter on Mariology (chapter seven), presented a graceful balance in the call for sensitivity to such a topic. The balance is greatly accentuated by the author\u2019s proclamation of the love of a Father, the love of God the Father, who does not need his arm to be twisted by a maternal figure to be nice to us (109\u2013110).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conclusion<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Everyone who is suspicious that creeds and confessions are relics from the past, and everyone who thinks that Roman Catholics and Evangelicals believe the same meanings in the Nicene Creed ought to read this book. It serves as a primer for Christians needing to revisit their confessional heritage in depth, and it is especially helpful for Protestants who want to explore some of the fundamental differences between them and Rome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Overall, this book successfully and skillfully explains the distinctions between the Roman Catholic and Evangelical understandings of the Nicene Creed. Rightly then, the Nicene creed as a \u201ccommon confession should not mask these substantial points of disparity on this doctrine that is at the heart of what it means to be the church\u201d (97). While both Roman Catholics and Evangelicals affirm the same words of the Creed, they believe in vastly different meanings <em>behind<\/em> the words. By engaging the questions in this book, the reader can be \u201cresponsible enough to look past the words being used, to the worlds that shape their understanding\u201d (142).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cSurely we believe in one and the same Lord Jesus Christ\u201d is often claimed to be the foundation of agreement between Roman Catholic doctrine and evangelical theology. 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